Error trying Live TV

[Kudzu]

Tuner: Hauppauge Computer Works : WinTV-HVR-950Q
Satellite box which broadcasts US NTSC analog on channel 3.

This device works fine with Windows Media Center on Windows 7.

I'm now on Windows 8, but I dont think thats the issue...

1) Has anyone tested NextPVR on Windows 8 RTM?

2) When I click live TV I get "index out of range, value cannot be -1".

3) I have no channels defined though... so maybe thats it.. My tuner shows up as 2 tuners - one analog one digital. Channel scanning in device setup on both of them returns no channels....

Ideas?

[Kudzu]

Full error:


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************** Exception Text **************
System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection.
Parameter name: index
at System.ThrowHelper.ThrowArgumentOutOfRangeExceptio n(ExceptionArgument argument, ExceptionResource resource)
at System.ThrowHelper.ThrowArgumentOutOfRangeExceptio n()
at System.Collections.Generic.List`1.get_Item(Int32 index)
at NextPVR.Players.LiveTvPlayer.StartLiveTV(String& reason)
at NextPVR.ControllerForm.PlayLiveTV()
at NextPVR.Menu.Vertical.HandleMenuItem(String menuItem)
at NextPVR.Menu.Vertical.OnClick(PointF location)
at NextPVR.ControllerForm.ControllerForm_MouseClick(O bject sender, MouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnMouseClick(MouseEve ntArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Mes sage& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl.WndProc(Mess age& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WndProc(Message& m)
at NextPVR.ControllerForm.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.O nMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.W ndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


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[Kudzu]

Further info.. Just installed WinTV7 (Software from tv tuner vendor) and it runs fine under Windows 8 and displays the feed on channel 3.

[johnsonx42]

2) When I click live TV I get "index out of range, value cannot be -1".

3) I have no channels defined though... so maybe thats it.. My tuner shows up as 2 tuners - one analog one digital. Channel scanning in device setup on both of them returns no channels....

Issue #2 is caused by issue #3. The livetv code doesn't have a safety check for not having any channels setup at all.

Also, an HVR-950Q should show up 3 times - ATSC, QAM and Analog. I suspect you are only seeing ATSC and QAM, which are both digital. Please see the Analog Capture Devices section of the post linked in my signature. There's also some help for setting up channels, and your EPG (which if you setup first makes setting up the channels a snap).

[Kudzu]

Progress... I installed WinTV7 after I installed NextPVR.. and now analog shows up.

I get audio now.. but not video. The settings says "DirectX not found using software render". Windows 8, like 7 and Vista have DirectX already installed though, and 9.0c cannot be manually installed on them (some games require a hack to trick them).

Suggestions?

[johnsonx42]

install the directx runtime I linked in the sticky thread. yes, I know you have windows 8. install it anyway.

that won't have anything to do with not getting video though, it just makes the UI render in software which can be slow.

what did you select for your MPEG-2 Video decoder?

(edit: funny, I read your post that said you installed WinTV7, but it didn't really register in my mind... I missed a great opportunity there, I could have said "ok, I logged into your system and fixed it; go back into NPVR Settings and you'll see you now have an Analog capture device"... wouldn't that have freaked you out?)

[Kudzu]

MPEG2 was set to disabled. I set it to Microsoft. Same result. Changed it to MainConcept (HCW) and it works.

Thanks!

ISP is having issues and the directx secondary download is 100 MB... so will try that later.

[johnsonx42]

Do you have the media center add-on pack for Win8? I think the win8 microsoft mpeg decoder is crippled somehow if you don't have that. Too bad too, it's been a very reliable decoder in Windows 7 and Vista.

[Kudzu]

Media Center add on pack is not available for Win8 RTM yet

Thats one reason Im looking at NextPVR.....