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mcragoe
2004-02-03, 09:59 PM
Hi Sub,

Are there any plans to add support for thee Adaptec Videoh! USB card? (2210) It seems like nobody has added support for this capture device. It does a great job with MyDVD, but I would like to use it with other software that I can set a recording time up.

Thanks for your help,
Mike

sub
2004-02-03, 10:55 PM
Unfortunately I dont really have the resources to buy all these cards, so I've only really support the PVR350/250 which I own.

Does this device use hardware encoding to capture to mpeg2? or does it capture to some other file format?

mcragoe
2004-02-04, 03:19 AM
It is a true hardware encoder and records to mpeg2 file. It is like the PVR 250 because it captures the video and the sound. It seems to work well, but the MyDVD software sucks! I have checked many web sites and forums to find other software that will work with this device. I am not sure what chipset this device uses. If you have any ideas how to get this to work, I can do some testing to see if it will work.

Thanks for your help!
Mike

sub
2004-02-04, 03:31 AM
If you're up to it, you could try to get it to go. You'd need to add a section to direct.ini for your device, and replace all the names with those appropriate for your device. You'd need to you GraphEdit to find the appropriate filter names and pin names.

Below is the definition for the PVR250/350.


[Hauppauge PVR250/PVR350]
FILTER_CROSSBAR=Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Crossbar
FILTER_CAPTURE=Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture
FILTER_TV_TUNER=Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II TvTuner
FILTER_TV_AUDIO=Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II TvAudio
PIN_CROSSBAR_VIDEO_TUNER_IN=Video Tuner In
PIN_TVTUNER_ANALOG_VIDEO_OUT=Analog Video
PIN_TVTUNER_ANALOG_AUDIO_OUT=Analog Audio
PIN_TVAUDIO_TV_AUDIO_IN=TVAudio In
PIN_TVAUDIO_TV_AUDIO_OUT=TVAudio Out
PIN_CROSSBAR_AUDIO_TUNER_IN=Audio Tuner In
PIN_CROSSBAR_VIDEO_DECODER_OUT=Video Decoder Out
PIN_CAPTURE_ANALOG_VIDEO_IN=Analog Video In
PIN_CROSSBAR_AUDIO_DECODER_OUT=Audio Decoder Out
PIN_CAPTURE_ANALOG_AUDIO_IN=Analog Audio In
PIN_CAPTURE_CAPTURE_OUT=Capture
PIN_WRITER_INPUT_IN=Input

mcragoe
2004-02-04, 05:19 AM
I think I will give it a try! Will this work http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/downloads/graphedit.html ? Should I just follow the instructions?

Thanks,
Mike

sub
2004-02-04, 05:28 AM
Yes, that copy of graphedit should be fine.

In the GB-PVR I make a graph that look similar to the following
http://www.gbpvr.com/images/capture.jpg

Each of the filters (boxes) are added using the 'Insert Filters' menu option, and then linked up using the pin names. The section of the .ini file I described above shows roughly the names of the filters you're after. Let me know how you get on.

sub
2004-02-04, 05:30 AM
You want to try and produce approximately the same graph, but using the Adaptec filters.

mcragoe
2004-02-04, 11:43 AM
Great!

I will try to look at this tonight.

Mike

mcragoe
2004-02-05, 12:33 AM
OK, here is what I have. I am not sure if this is all I need.

Mikehttp://www.gbpvr.com/images/adaptec2210.gif

sub
2004-02-05, 01:25 AM
Try adding a section (below) to the direct.ini. Then use the GB-PVR Config app to setup a capture source which uses the DirectRecording plugin. This should now allow you select 'Adaptec VideOh' in the card type dropdown list. No promises that it will work, but its worth a shot.

[Adaptec VideOh]
FILTER_CROSSBAR=Adaptec USB Crossbar
FILTER_CAPTURE=Adaptec USB Capture Device
FILTER_TV_TUNER=Adaptec USB TvTuner
FILTER_TV_AUDIO=Adaptec USB TvAudio
PIN_CROSSBAR_VIDEO_TUNER_IN=Video Tuner In
PIN_TVTUNER_ANALOG_VIDEO_OUT=Analog Video
PIN_TVTUNER_ANALOG_AUDIO_OUT=Analog Audio
PIN_TVAUDIO_TV_AUDIO_IN=TVAudio In
PIN_TVAUDIO_TV_AUDIO_OUT=TVAudio Out
PIN_CROSSBAR_AUDIO_TUNER_IN=Audio Tuner In
PIN_CROSSBAR_VIDEO_DECODER_OUT=Video Decoder Out
PIN_CAPTURE_ANALOG_VIDEO_IN=Analog Video In
PIN_CROSSBAR_AUDIO_DECODER_OUT=Audio Decoder Out
PIN_CAPTURE_ANALOG_AUDIO_IN=Analog Audio In
PIN_CAPTURE_CAPTURE_OUT=Capture
PIN_WRITER_INPUT_IN=Input

mcragoe
2004-02-05, 03:53 AM
OK, I added the info to the direct.ini at the bottom of the file. I added the Adaptec as the capture source and when I tried live TV I got an error. "Failed to communicate with the GB_PVR Recording Service....Reboot and try again. I rebooted and tried again with no luck.

Mike

mcragoe
2004-02-05, 04:56 AM
I am a dumb ass!http://gbpvr.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I removed the adaptec and added it back in and forgot to config it before I sent the file. (Sorry)



Here is some more info now that I did it correctly.



23:36:29.281 DirectRecorder(0, 0, 1, 0)

23:36:46.796 DirectRecorder(0, 0, 1, 0)

23:37:25.078 DirectRecorder(0, 0, 1, 0)

23:45:52.734 DirectRecorder(0, 0, 1, 0)

23:46:01.968 DirectRecorder(0, 0, 1, 0)

23:46:38.546 DirectRecorder(0, 0, 1, 0)

23:47:58.296 DirectRecorder(1, 1, 254, 0)

23:47:58.296 Loading filter names from E

23:47:58.296 Found names:

23:47:58.296 Adaptec USB Crossbar

23:47:58.296 Adaptec USB Capture Device

23:47:58.296 Adaptec USB TvTuner

23:47:58.296 Adaptec USB TvAudio

23:47:58.359 Failed to find Writer filter

23:47:58.359 Failed to connect pinNameCrossbarAudioDecoderOut to pinNameCaptureAnalogAudioIn

mcragoe
2004-02-06, 03:35 AM
I want to thank Sub for his extra help last night helping me try to get my Adaptec Videoh! USB to work with GB-PVR.

Thank you Sub!

Here is the update to my other posts.

Sub asked me to try this to get past the error. Doing this allowed me to get past the error.
--------------------------
Can you try changing into the c:\program files\devnz\gbpvr (or your equiv)
directory from command prompt and run the following.

regsvr32 GBPVRWriter.ax
regsvr32 asyncflt.ax
regsvr32 ovtool.dll

Then try again, then send the direct.log again.
---------------------------

I am now able to get sound and video from the Adaptec Videoh! USB device (2210).

Life seems great until I try to play the file with my Media MVP. I do not get any sound using the Media MVP when I play these files. I also tried the files in Windows Media Player and I get the sound. It also works in Ulead DVD Movie Factory, but not in WinDVD 4.

I have adjusted the audio settings in GB-PVR to see if I can make this work. I will update with more details.

Anyone else have any ideas at this point??

Mike

mcragoe
2004-02-06, 07:51 PM
Here is an update on the Adaptec Videoh! USB (2210)

It looks like the Adaptec Videoh! USB (2210) creates the audio format as LPCM and not mpeg.

The good news:
The Adaptec Videoh! USB (2210) will work with GB-PVR!

The bad news:
Media MVP does not support LPCM at this time and the files created with the Adaptec Videoh! USB (2210) using GB-PVR will have no sound.

Conclusion:
If you have an Adaptec Videoh! USB (2210), GB-PVR is the only PVR that I have seen that can use the Adaptec Videoh! USB (2210). Maybe I will not have to use MyDVD anymore.

Great job Sub!!!!!!!!!!!

Mike

mcragoe
2004-02-07, 03:17 PM
Hi Sub,

I posted the following question on the shspvr.com site:
------------------------------------
SHS,

Can you give me an update on LPCM audio on the Media MVP? With the help of Sub, I was able to get my Adaptec Videoh! USB (2210) to work with GB-PVR. I then tried to use my MVP to view the files and quickly found out that the MVP does not support LPCM audio. I know there are other posts about this, but I was just looking for an update.

Thanks!
Mike

Here is SHS's reply:
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It on Plan Do List but I have no idea when they be able to get to it.
__
SHS Unofficial WinTV PVR

There may still be hope for using the Adaptec Videoh! with GB-PVR and *the Media MVP!

Mike

sub
2004-02-07, 03:48 PM
You also might want to check with adaptec. They may have a means to record mpeg layer 1/2 audio.

mcragoe
2004-02-07, 10:58 PM
I found some information about the chipset for the Videoh! and it looks like it will only do LPCM.

Mike

sub
2004-02-07, 11:19 PM
Oh well, start hoping that Hauppauge come up with LPCM support for the MVP. Sorry...

mcragoe
2004-02-08, 12:50 AM
Well,

I guess I will just continue to put my own video tapes on DVD with the Adaptec.

Do you have a timeframe for support for ATI or Avermedia capture cards? If you need me make graph on these, I can! I would like to use GB-PVR with these cards.

Take care and thanks again!
Mike

sub
2004-02-08, 01:11 AM
You should still be able to use your Adaptec with GB-PVR, just not for making videos that can be played back on the MVP.

Probably the next cards to be supported will be the ProVideo cards, because I have access to them. The Avermedia cards M179, Yuan MPG600 and Yuan MPG160, probably already work if the names in direct.ini are changed. These are based on the same capture chipset as the Hauppauge cards.

ATI is likely to be in the 'in a few months' type timeframe.

mcragoe
2004-02-09, 12:35 AM
Thanks, Sub

mcdilbery
2005-07-14, 04:58 PM
Hi Mcragoe,
Is the edited file that you finally got working available by email, it would save me hacking away without a clue and I would be forever in your debt?

thanks!

Coln

mcragoe
2005-07-18, 06:39 PM
Hi Mcragoe,
Is the edited file that you finally got working available by email, it would save me hacking away without a clue and I would be forever in your debt?

thanks!

Coln

Here is the file I had from that day. I think Sub added this to GBPVR now. Take a look in the direct.ini and comepare the lines.

[SETUP-Main]

[SETUP-DVD]
VideoResolution=0 // 0:720x480(576), 1:480x480(576), 2:352x480(576)MPEG2/352x240(288)MPEG1-VCD, 3:320x240(288)
Bitrate=6000 // Kbits/sec
AudioFrequency=1 // 0:44.1kHz, 1:48kHz, 2:32Khz
AudioCompression=11 // 4:64Kbit, 6:96kbit, 7:112kbit, 8:128Kbit, 9:160Kbit, 10:192Kbit, 11:224Kbit, 12:256Kbit, 13:320Kbit, 14:384Kbit

[SETUP-DVD Long Play]
VideoResolution=0 // 0:720x480(576), 1:480x480(576), 2:352x480(576)MPEG2/352x240(288)MPEG1-VCD, 3:320x240(288)
Bitrate=6000 // Kbits/sec
AudioFrequency=1 // 0:44.1kHz, 1:48kHz, 2:32Khz
AudioCompression=11 // 4:64Kbit, 6:96kbit, 7:112kbit, 8:128Kbit, 9:160Kbit, 10:192Kbit, 11:224Kbit, 12:256Kbit, 13:320Kbit, 14:384Kbit

[Hauppauge PVR250/PVR350]
FILTER_CROSSBAR=Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Crossbar
FILTER_CAPTURE=Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture
FILTER_TV_TUNER=Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II TvTuner
FILTER_TV_AUDIO=Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II TvAudio
PIN_CROSSBAR_VIDEO_TUNER_IN=Video Tuner In
PIN_TVTUNER_ANALOG_VIDEO_OUT=Analog Video
PIN_TVTUNER_ANALOG_AUDIO_OUT=Analog Audio
PIN_TVAUDIO_TV_AUDIO_IN=TVAudio In
PIN_TVAUDIO_TV_AUDIO_OUT=TVAudio Out
PIN_CROSSBAR_AUDIO_TUNER_IN=Audio Tuner In
PIN_CROSSBAR_VIDEO_DECODER_OUT=Video Decoder Out
PIN_CAPTURE_ANALOG_VIDEO_IN=Analog Video In
PIN_CROSSBAR_AUDIO_DECODER_OUT=Audio Decoder Out
PIN_CAPTURE_ANALOG_AUDIO_IN=Analog Audio In
PIN_CAPTURE_CAPTURE_OUT=Capture
PIN_WRITER_INPUT_IN=Input

[Hauppauge WinTV PVR2 USB]
FILTER_CROSSBAR=Hauppauge WinTV PVR USB2 Crossbar
FILTER_CAPTURE=Hauppauge WinTV PVR USB2 Encoder
FILTER_TV_TUNER=Hauppauge WinTV PVR USB2 TvTuner
FILTER_TV_AUDIO=Hauppauge WinTV PVR USB2 TvAudio
PIN_CROSSBAR_VIDEO_TUNER_IN=Video Tuner In
PIN_TVTUNER_ANALOG_VIDEO_OUT=Analog Video
PIN_TVTUNER_ANALOG_AUDIO_OUT=Analog Audio
PIN_TVAUDIO_TV_AUDIO_IN=TVAudio In
PIN_TVAUDIO_TV_AUDIO_OUT=TVAudio Out
PIN_CROSSBAR_AUDIO_TUNER_IN=Audio Tuner In
PIN_CROSSBAR_VIDEO_DECODER_OUT=Video Decoder Out
PIN_CAPTURE_ANALOG_VIDEO_IN=Analog Video In
PIN_CROSSBAR_AUDIO_DECODER_OUT=Audio Decoder Out
PIN_CAPTURE_ANALOG_AUDIO_IN=Analog Audio In
PIN_CAPTURE_CAPTURE_OUT=Capture
PIN_WRITER_INPUT_IN=Input

[Adaptec VideOh]
FILTER_CROSSBAR=Adaptec USB Crossbar
FILTER_CAPTURE=Adaptec USB Capture Device
FILTER_TV_TUNER=Adaptec USB TvTuner
FILTER_TV_AUDIO=Adaptec USB TvAudio
PIN_CROSSBAR_VIDEO_TUNER_IN=Video Tuner In
PIN_TVTUNER_ANALOG_VIDEO_OUT=Analog Video
PIN_TVTUNER_ANALOG_AUDIO_OUT=Analog Audio
PIN_TVAUDIO_TV_AUDIO_IN=TVAudio In
PIN_TVAUDIO_TV_AUDIO_OUT=TVAudio Out
PIN_CROSSBAR_AUDIO_TUNER_IN=Audio Tuner In
PIN_CROSSBAR_VIDEO_DECODER_OUT=Video Decoder Out
PIN_CAPTURE_ANALOG_VIDEO_IN=Analog Video In
PIN_CROSSBAR_AUDIO_DECODER_OUT=Audio Decoder Out
PIN_CAPTURE_ANALOG_AUDIO_IN=Analog Audio In
PIN_CAPTURE_CAPTURE_OUT=Capture
PIN_WRITER_INPUT_IN=Input

easlaksen
2006-03-02, 04:48 AM
I am completely new to this and was wondering if your method would work for an adaptec videooh pci 2410 as well.

If so what do i need to do to get mine to work.

thanks again for your time

erik